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am not a cheater i had successfull deal with other persons.i given coupon to him.he is asking after 1 day that all r not working.i dnt wat hapeens in oneday frm his side.if he told on that buyiing moment.i will check and replace him

all codes received by me are pasted here, any one can check these codes, some codes are wrong codes. what are you saying about wrong codes? if codes are used, you can say that they have used by me but what about the wrong codes. you dont have any excuse about them. members of IFS will check and telly theses codes you might have sent these codes to many other persons.

When the expiry of the codes are 31st march. it is not necessary to use them same day. i am saying abuses for the cheater. if you have courage than you too say abuses for cheater. cheater is motherf.....

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this is proof of not attending my cal.he didnt contact me till now.he  cheated 75rs. from me.he gave unused coupon.then after sometimes he used it and told me that he gave unused coupons deal finished.here is photo of his conversation

 

http://picthost.net/image.php?di=R4X1

manojeeva you have cheated rs. 420/- from me. my no. is 9462017503.

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Skm19666

Provide some proof.

bcs I have deal with that guy but he didn't cheated me

i have pasted all the coupons received by me on trade give away page below the post of the manojeeva. you can check them. many codes are wrong code. who is responsible for wrong code?. write your whats app no. and i will send you screen shot of the codes sent by manojeeva to me. plz. also ask manojeeva about wrong codes.i have traded from many persons. and used code after more than 15 days of receiving them. never faced any problem. if i would have not been cheated i would not post these comments here. what do you think? i want more code in same price?. No dear, i am writing here because i have been cheated.

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i have pasted all the coupons received by me on trade give away page below the post of the manojeeva. you can check them. many codes are wrong code. who is responsible for wrong code?. write your whats app no. and i will send you screen shot of the codes sent by manojeeva to me. plz. also ask manojeeva about wrong codes.i have traded from many persons. and used code after more than 15 days of receiving them. never faced any problem. if i would have not been cheated i would not post these comments here. what do you think? i want more code in same price?. No dear, i am writing here because i have been cheated.

Send screenshot on this no. +917200661432

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gauravtzo is fraud person block that person admin

i purchase many series 40 cb 10 freecharge from him afterwards when i purchase one series in bulk @18 eachcoupon in which three codes are already used i say him reagarding this .. he say aisa nahi ho saktha after 2 days his seller give him 2 new coupons in excahnge of 3 coupons already used display. i say for refund then take coupon i choose freecharge 50 cb 50 @20 as per his deal price which now again already used coupon.. wo bhi nahi manaa wo after i say ok give my balance refund 18*3=54-20=34 

then they logout from whatsapp chat  number 8802254567 and now this time he is dealing with other number  8486009193

he has two main paytm id (may be also ifs id) 1. [email protected]  2. [email protected]

 

as i am eligible for 54 refund but if 20 rs freecharge coupon as its already used

as in this conversation he accept that he received 2 coupons from his seller as means i am not saying any lie 

 

conversation between us on whatsapp :

 
10:13, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Hiii
10:13, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Oman and ipun series
10:29, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Not yet received sold out
12:51, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Did u need 20 instant disc coupon
14:10, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Yes
14:10, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: I want PayTM 20 off??
14:10, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Do u have
14:10, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Yrs
14:10, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Yes*
14:10, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: How much u ned
14:12, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Validity
14:12, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: ??
14:13, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Dnt knw
14:14, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: I think its validy only for today
14:14, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Bt it wrkng today
14:14, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Dnt knw
14:14, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Try it I want 4 for my cell I used 2 on it
14:27, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Say
14:28, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Ya i have
14:28, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Say I will work or not
14:28, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Price
14:28, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: @ 10 each
14:28, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Ya wrking
14:28, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Give me one
14:28, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: I use and purchase
14:29, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Want 10 rs now or
14:29, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Send u later
14:29, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Give ur num i check on ur num
14:29, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: 8468009193
14:33, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: GDFZ0AUGQH6DSN
14:33, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Use this
14:35, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Wait
14:40, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Want
14:40, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Bith
14:40, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Iitg
14:40, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Bith price
14:40, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Pear
14:40, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Series any of them
14:41, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: 18
14:41, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Kk
14:41, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: I need 8
14:42, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: 8 bith code??
14:42, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Yes
14:43, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Ok
14:43, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Send money
14:44, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: R u there??
14:45, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Yes
14:45, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: U need paytm 20 off
14:46, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Yes buy u at evening bro
14:46, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: N tell u
14:46, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Ok
14:46, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: I have ask my friends they also want
14:46, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: I give u 1
14:46, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Yeah
14:46, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Did u use it
14:47, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Deduct from payment u send
14:47, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: No
14:47, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Ok
14:47, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: 18*8= 144-10 134 
I send  u 130
14:47, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Fine
14:48, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Send 132
14:48, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Ok 132
14:48, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Paytm nun
14:49, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Sorry
14:49, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Don't get
14:49, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Send fast
14:49, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Ur paytm num send again
14:49, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Ok
14:49, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: 8468009193
14:51, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Send
14:52, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Bro bit coupon validity
14:52, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: You have successfully sent Rs.132.0 to gaurav singh via Paytm Wallet. Use Paytm wallet for recharges,bill payments and shopping online.
14:53, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Ok wait
14:53, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: For while
14:54, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Kk
14:55, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: I also waiting to receive give u when I receive
14:56, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Kk
14:56, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Validity
14:56, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: I also asked
14:56, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Let u know he is offline now
14:57, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: For whom u get
14:58, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: The main source
14:58, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Validity 2 and march
15:02, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Ok
15:03, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Deal done
15:03, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: BITHY8UY
BITHWSD9
BITHD5BM
BITH7CHX
BITHAU6P
15:03, 28 Feb - Aigaurav:
15:03, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: BITHBMNL
BITHNY5F
BITH7VKW
15:03, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Sending balance 5
15:06, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: 5???
15:06, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Did u have oman series
15:20, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: No
15:20, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Kk
15:21, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Want 2 more bit @16 each last left
15:21, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: No
 
2/28, 6:14 PM] Gaurav Singh: 25 on 50
[2/28, 6:14 PM] Gaurav Singh: Paytm
18:15, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Bhai maine saab mai pahale use lai liyaa
18:16, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Saare me ssare
18:17, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Want 20 off coupon
18:17, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Bro
18:17, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Bro 25cb coupn  on my all id 
So i dnt need any
18:17, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Bro sold out
18:18, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: All
18:18, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Yes
18:34, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Bro
18:35, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Yes
18:35, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: U have bith code in which 4 code say already used
18:35, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Sorry
18:36, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Thn
18:38, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: In which lot
18:39, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: BITHAU6P
18:40, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: It s used??
18:40, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: BITH7VKW
18:40, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Yes it say already used
18:41, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Only two
18:42, 28 Feb - shailesh g
18:42, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: 3 say already used
18:42, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Wait 1 mre send
18:43, 28 Feb - Aigaurav:arg: Out of 8
 BITHY8UY
BITHWSD9
BITHD5BM
BITH7CHX
BITHAU6P
BITHAJUR
BITHV7RT
BITHBWMV
BITHL26U
18:43, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Try any of thesw
18:43, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: These
18:44, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: BITH7CHX
18:46, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: BITHX2HT
BITHPK8U
BITHM2D7
18:47, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Try this alsi
18:47, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Also
18:47, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: And tell me if not work I will ask to seller
18:47, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: All used
18:49, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: All are used it display
18:50, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Ok
18:50, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Means 3 code are used
18:51, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Yes
18:51, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Out of 8 i cN use only 5
18:52, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Ok I will tell u when I get any solution wait
18:53, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Ok
18:54, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: 18*3 =54
18:57, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Yaar i wll ask him
18:57, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Waise aisa hota ni h usually
18:57, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Ki code used ho bro
18:57, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Means i used to buy from him frm last 3 mnths
18:57, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Never happnd to me
18:57, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Fir bhi i wll ask him
18:57, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Reply from him
18:58, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: Bro i purchased frm other alsi
18:58, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: But nt happn with mee
18:58, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Not now
18:58, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Because self use 6 code and send to friends and sell
18:58, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: No code is used except ur
18:59, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Let the matter resolve
18:59, 28 Feb - shailesh garg: As u wish
19:00, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: I also never happened to me
19:00, 28 Feb - Aigaurav: Wait na
10:05, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: Amun seriea
10:06, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: Aipun series want??
12:13, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: Starting frm a or i
12:15, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: Ipun
12:17, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: Already used
12:17, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: Aum
12:17, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: Nirm
12:17, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: Bro whts abt 3 coupm
12:18, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: I am waiting for his reply
12:18, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: Kk
12:20, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: Do u want
13:03, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: Bro our previous 3 coupons u made settlement 
AfterwRds i purchsse frm u
13:03, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: Ok
13:37, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: One thing we can we both can bear half loss on tht coupns
13:38, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: And after we purchase and sell and also whem u give me new u always apply whther it code applied or nt
13:44, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: I HV trusted seller
13:45, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: Bro so I not need this
13:46, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: Ok as ur wish bro
13:46, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: When u receive confirmation frm ur seller then say me
13:47, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: And wht tme taken to solve all this prblm
13:47, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: I will refund ur money on my hand
13:47, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: But wait for his reply
13:47, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: He is also talking to his seller
13:48, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: Ohhh so many seller and buyer
13:49, 1 Mar - Aigaurav: I will but keep patience
13:49, 1 Mar - shailesh garg: Ok
13:31, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Bro whts happn
13:32, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: He give me two coupons
13:33, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Thn for me
13:34, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: I will talk to u in evening I am in class
13:34, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Ok
13:34, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Kk
20:24, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Yes
20:24, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: R u dere?
21:36, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Hii
21:36, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Hello
21:37, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Then which 2 coupn series u give me
21:37, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Sold out
21:38, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: I have some coupon if u want anyone take it
21:38, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Paytm 20 off
21:38, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Paytm 10off
21:38, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Paytm 50 off
21:38, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Free charge 50 on 50 cash back
21:38, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Do u want any of them??
21:38, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Let me know
21:39, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Kk
21:40, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Amt of refund in tht coupon
21:40, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: In tht i purchase tht amt coupon
21:41, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Freecharge 50 cb 50 is junglee ciupon
21:41, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: I refund u 50 %
21:41, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Coz I get 2 coupons from him
21:41, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Out of which again one use
21:42, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Used
21:42, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: I again tell him
21:42, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: U can take money or selection the coupon equivalent to the 50% amount
21:43, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Bro 18 *2= 36
21:43, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Then equilvalnt ciupn
21:43, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: As this sure tht two coupon are already use so its nt my fault
21:44, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: I m elgible refund from u
21:44, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Bt i need in exchange of other coupn
21:44, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Ok
21:44, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Chose coupon
21:45, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Ok take cash
21:45, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Fc 50 cb 50 is jungle coupn
21:45, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Tell me the amount any but not 100%
21:45, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: I will refund
21:45, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Because he said he personally check the coupons and they are not used
21:46, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Fc 50 cb 50 freecharge is jungle or nt???????
21:47, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Yes have
21:47, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: From junglee
21:47, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: As u said tht out of 2 coupn he gave 1 is already used... So he dng such thn
21:48, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Price fc 50 cb 50
21:48, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: 20
21:48, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Kk
21:49, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Ok 
Give me 
1  50 cb 50 freecharge
3  10 instant off
21:50, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: 10 is not avalible now
21:50, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Give u 20 off
21:51, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Give me 2 fc 50 cb 50
21:51, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: I give u bal amt
22:00, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: ???
22:17, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: IMG-20150303-WA0003.jpg (file attached)
22:16, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Ok
22:36, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Bro 1 mre
23:35, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Code is already used
23:36, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: ???
23:36, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Omg
23:37, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: IMG-20150303-WA0005.jpg (file attached)
23:38, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: ?????
23:39, 3 Mar - Aigaurav: Wait
23:44, 3 Mar - shailesh garg: Did u check
00:02, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: ?????
00:03, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: Bro I got headache
00:03, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: Me 2
00:03, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: Do we talk later
00:03, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: I didnt any coupn 
Give me cash back
00:04, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: Ok talk to u tommaow
00:04, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: And solve the matter
00:04, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: Kk.. Wait ur mess
01:15, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: Did ur selling bnmi code
08:57, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: Yes
09:10, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: Our previous make adjustment and after i purchase new bnmi code
16:47, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: But it should work... I haven't sent that coupon to anyone else...
16:47, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: i think u r lieir 
each times it not possible code is not working
16:48, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: reply from seller of fc cose
16:48, 4 Mar - Aigaurav: code
16:48, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: If this happn then ur seller nt give 2 code
16:49, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: Give my bal amr
16:49, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: Amt*
16:50, 4 Mar - shailesh garg: ????
 
 
 
PLEASE BLOCK THAT PERSON 

 

 

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Yes I checked the code I exchange the code 2 time time say code is used .. How it is possible I personally use code for my self .. But on relying I talks to my trusted seller they said code is not use then what will I do I exchange the code two time .. Nothing I can do on this ..... I am opinion he is lieing beacse the code that I used is used so I trust my seller ..... I can't do anything soory exchange 2 times

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@ gauravtzo ur really cheap cheater

 

first of all 3 codes which are already used ur seller give u 2 codes again in exchange of that.

inspite of giving me full refund u say u  give some amnt only not 100% so i chhose coupon which u cost is 20paytm

in that 3 coupons cost is 18*3=54-20 =34 unot give me refund

34 paytm cash sai maire koi farak nahi pad jayega tu hi rakhh laii khush rehh holi ka festival haii giftt samaj laiii

but dnt tell lie ki opportunity di etc... bal ball

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@ gauravtzo ur really cheap cheater

 

first of all 3 codes which are already used ur seller give u 2 codes again in exchange of that.

inspite of giving me full refund u say u  give some amnt only not 100% so i chhose coupon which u cost is 20paytm

in that 3 coupons cost is 18*3=54-20 =34 unot give me refund

34 paytm cash sai maire koi farak nahi pad jayega tu hi rakhh laii khush rehh holi ka festival haii giftt samaj laiii

but dnt tell lie ki opportunity di etc... bal ball

Bro gaurav isa good  trader in my point of view ,,i also bought some coupons from him,,..all worked..u r loss is is 3 coupons na,,so share the loss both of you,,anyways admin will take final action..

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Bro gaurav isa good  trader in my point of view ,,i also bought some coupons from him,,..all worked..u r loss is is 3 coupons na,,so share the loss both of you,,anyways admin will take final action..

bro agar wo half half loss bear kar laitha i have no problem

lakin loss bhi bear nhi kara and finally switch off to his whatsapp num and now  trade with another whatsapp number

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Look garg now its enough I give you opportunity for all king I don't swhich off my number I am on same number but for your kind information I blocked you "the headache" ...

@ gauravtzo ur really cheap cheater

first of all 3 codes which are already used ur seller give u 2 codes again in exchange of that.

inspite of giving me full refund u say u give some amnt only not 100% so i chhose coupon which u cost is 20paytm

in that 3 coupons cost is 18*3=54-20 =34 unot give me refund

34 paytm cash sai maire koi farak nahi pad jayega tu hi rakhh laii khush rehh holi ka festival haii giftt samaj laiii

but dnt tell lie ki opportunity di etc... bal ball

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@deepak410

what is this points,warning points,general and superdeals.....Any of these matters...OR...is there some user manual kinda come with phone you know what i mean..? 

1) Points = Reward..you can exchange with gifts details here http://indiafreestuff.in/gift

2) Warning Points given every time once members are suspended. 5 Warning points = 1 hour suspension, 10 points = 1 day, 15 points = 1 week and 20 points = forever

3) Total number of superdeals = Total number of your shared deals we have posted on front page details here http://indiafreestuff.in/gift

4) General is one of our member groupon, others are guest, banned, contributer, moderator and admin. Details here http://indiafreestuff.in/forum/index.php?/topic/20700-ifs-member-titleranksgrouprewardbadge-system/

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1) Points = Reward..you can exchange with gifts details here http://indiafreestuff.in/gift

2) Warning Points given every time once members are suspended. 5 Warning points = 1 hour suspension, 10 points = 1 day, 15 points = 1 week and 20 points = forever

3) Total number of superdeals = Total number of your shared deals we have posted on front page details here http://indiafreestuff.in/gift

4) General is one of our member groupon, others are guest, banned, contributer, moderator and admin. Details here http://indiafreestuff.in/forum/index.php?/topic/20700-ifs-member-titleranksgrouprewardbadge-system/

thnx admin...it really helps...and what are those green thumbs....these are for reputation point or something else

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Hey admin

A person cheated me

His name is Bhaskar Taneja

He contacted me saying he wanted to sell NIRM series of freecharge codes.

I told him dat i want only one he gave me one

Later on i asked him 20 more

He asked me to transfer the amount

When i was transferring the amount Paytm had a technical problem so double amount transferree 160+160

I immediately msgd him on fcbk that double amount is transferred so he should refund be rs.160

As he was ofline i called him up he said he doesn't hv the codes now and will give me when he has

I told him that i want now if he doesn't hv the codes then he has to refund me whole rs.320.

He said ok and told me that he will refund the amount in the evening as he didn't had the internet access

Later on he posted 40 codes in fcbk chat saying that these are the codes

I asked him that i don't want the codes and i want refund

But he hasn't refunded me a single penny and out of the 40 codes only 9 are unused rest are all used

He has blocked me on fcbk and blocked both my numbers

When i threatened him dat i will put his name on the cheater board he said ok but he'll not refund

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